Friday, May 14, 2010

I listened to a NatGeo television series in which "octopi" [sic] were victorious in battle with sharks.


It's octopuses, people; if you want to be pedantic, you can say octopodes.





And boy, do I know from pedantic. . . .

13 comments:

Tomanonymous said...
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mister muleboy said...

I don't blame you for removing it.

You were going to call me a fucking asshole, but thought that it would be unkind to do so on my own blog.

Well, I was kinda trolling for asshole, if you must know.


Or maybe you were going to accuse audio of fucking it up in the mix. . . .

Little Johnny Jewel said...

I have two things to say;

a) nothing to do with me

b) I had a 10 minute argument about the correct pluralisation of sheep the other day.

Apparently it is Sheeps.

Lupner said...

Ah. Perhaps that person hails from a family of dumbass.

mister muleboy said...

Wow.

"Sheeps"

I get a perverse pleasure out of learning of my gross and horrible errors. Makes the ledantic dickhead in me all the more amused, or something.

"Sheeps," huh?

I gotta look into that.

mister muleboy said...

You'll have to share the advocate for "sheeps."

I have yet to find anyone, anywhere, who even remotely entertains it.

Even the mices seem appalled. . . .

Little Johnny Jewel said...

To be clear, I was suggesting sheep.

The producer with the expensive higher degree from a prestigious university was the one insisting that OBVIOUSLY the plural was sheeps.

Cow; cows.
Dog; dogs.
Sheep; sheeps.
Twat; twats.

Tomanonymous said...

Look, I made a lame joke about someone in the NatGeo audio department being asleep at the switch with a typo in it, rendering it even lamer, so I deleted it and didn't bother to re-post (the aforementioned lameness).

When I dopost something, it usually kills the conversation, but delete one fakking lame-arse post and I get seven responses. I should self-censor more often.

Happy Friday.

I said "good-day"!

Mister Parker said...

From the ever reliable Wikipedia:

The term octopus, pronounced /ˈɒktəpʊs/, is from Greek ὀκτάπους (oktapous), "eight-footed",[31][32] with plural forms: octopuses /ˈɒktəpʊsɪz/, octopi /ˈɒktəpaɪ/, or octopodes /ɒkˈtɒpədiːz/. Currently, octopuses is the most common form in both the US and the UK; octopodes is rare, and octopi is often objectionable.[33]

The plural form octopi is often defined as a hypercorrection. The Oxford English Dictionary (2008 Draft Revision[34]) lists octopuses, octopi and octopodes (in that order); it labels octopodes "rare", and notes that octopi derives from the "apprehension" that octōpūs is a second declension Latin noun, though it is not. It is a Latinization of Greek third-declension masculine oktṓpous (ὀκτώπους, 'eight-foot'), plural oktṓpodes (ὀκτώποδες). If the word were native to Latin, it would be octōpēs, plural octōpedes, after the pattern of pēs ('foot'), plural pedēs, analogous to "Centipede"[35]. The actual Latin word for octopus and other similar species is polypus, from Greek polýpous (πολύπους, 'many-foot'); usually the inaccurate plural polypī is used instead of polypodēs.

In modern Greek, the word is khtapódi (χταπόδι), plural khtapódia (χταπόδια), from Medieval oktapódion (ὀκταπόδιον), equivalent to Classical oktápous (ὀκτάπους), variant of oktṓpous.

Chambers 21st Century Dictionary[36] and the Compact Oxford Dictionary[37] list only octopuses, although the latter notes that octopodes is "still occasionally used"; the British National Corpus has 29 instances of octopuses, 11 of octopi and 4 of octopodes. Merriam-Webster 11th Collegiate Dictionary lists octopuses and octopi, in that order; Webster's New World College Dictionary lists octopuses, octopi and octopodes (in that order).

Fowler's Modern English Usage states that "the only acceptable plural in English is octopuses," and that octopi is misconceived and octopodes pedantic.

The term octopod (plural octopods or octopodes) is taken from the taxonomic order Octopoda but has no classical equivalent. The collective form octopus is usually reserved for animals consumed for food.


You'd be surprised how often this comes up in conversation ...

Lupner said...

'Dumbass' comment directed at 'sheeps' proponent, just for the record.

Funnily enough, have never pondered the plural of 'twat' before now ...

Mister Parker said...

Plural of "twat" -- twati? or twatipuses? Perhaps twatipodes?

[Serious discussion ensues.]

Lupner said...

All interesting suggestions, Mister Parker. However, I vote for 'twatae', cuz it sounds sophisticated-like.

Lupner said...

(Tho I do realize it's not truly a plural. But nevertheless ... logic has little to do with my way of thinking most of the time ...)